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The EDL and Paedophiles

The Richard Price Scandal

 

 

A leader of the English Defence League who was described as a “political prisoner” after being jailed for violence at a march had already been placed on the sex offenders register for downloading indecent images of children, The Times can reveal.
 
The far-right group launched a campaign to free Richard Price, co-ordinator of the West Midlands division of the EDL, after he was jailed last month for violent behaviour. But Price, 41, had been convicted in June 2010 of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine.
 
That conviction followed an earlier arrest in 2009 for public order offences believed to have been connected with EDL marches. Police were understood to have seized and analysed his computer, leading to the discovery of sexual images of children that he had downloaded. His home was also searched and the drugs were found.
 
Price admitted four counts of making indecent images of children and two charges of possessing cocaine when he appeared at Birmingham Crown Court. He was banned from owning a computer for a year, given a three-year community supervision order and ordered to sign on to the sex offenders register for five years.
 
Price, from Quinton, Birmingham, and Collum Keyes, 23, also from Birmingham, were among 12 people arrested when they surged through police lines during a protest in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, in May 2010.
 
When that case came to court in December, Price admitted using threatening behaviour. He was jailed for three months and given a ten-year Criminal Anti-Social Behaviour Order banning him from attending marches outside Birmingham. Keyes, who admitted disorderly conduct, was fined £150.
 
When Price was jailed, EDL members launched a campaign urging supporters to write to the Prime Minister and MPs to try to “win justice for Richard Price, EDL”.
 
The Aston Villa supporter, who has also been linked to football hooliganism, was even likened by his supporters to a modern-day John Bunyan, the Puritan Christian preacher and author of Pilgrim’s Progress who was jailed for continuing his sermons without the permission of the established Church in the 1600s.
 
But today’s revelation that one of the EDL’s leading members has been convicted of sex offences will come as a huge embarrassment to a group that has struggled to shrug off its reputation as a new version of the National Front.
 
In recent months, particularly following the political demise of the British National Party, the EDL has begun to attract more support. Its leader, who had previously used the alias Tommy Robinson, was traced by The Times and gave his first interview using his real name.
 
Stephen Lennon has vehemently denied that the group he started in Luton, Bedfordshire, is racist, saying that it has even set up a gay and lesbian division and given a prominent role to a Sikh supporter opposed to Islamic extremists.
 
Supporters of the EDL had claimed that Price became a political prisoner after he, along with Keyes, was banned from organising, controlling or travelling to any open-air protest outside Birmingham for ten years.
 
It was the first time a Criminal Anti-Social Behaviour Order, sought by Thames Valley Police in conjunction with the National Domestic Extremism Unit, had been issued to a demonstrator connected to the EDL.
 
Last month, a database of EDL supporters was published on the internet. Hackers had attacked the group’s database of those who had made donations to the EDL and people who had bought clothing from its merchandise wing.
 
Source: The Times (paywalled)
 
Verbatim: Copy & Redistribute.
 
 
Of course, Richard Price is not the only paedophile amongst the ranks. Brett Moses from the EDL Hull Division was jailed for 12 months for flying to Canada to groom a 13 year old girl.
 
 
 
Brett Moses claimed to be an abused teenage boy so he could chat to a 13-year-old girl in Canada.
 
A 37-year-old Hull man flew to Canada to meet a teenage girl he had been grooming on the Internet, a court heard.
 
When Brett Moses arrived in Vancouver, he then took an 11 hour bus journey to meet the 13-year-old in Grand Forks.
 
He was stopped by Canadian police following concerns by the parents of one of the girl’s friends.
 
Moses, a security guard in Hull, has now been given a 12-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, after earlier pleading guilty to sexual grooming.
 
Hull Crown Court heard that he first started speaking to the girl, who cannot be named for legal reasons, on an Internet chat room in 2004.
 
He claimed to be a 13-year-old called John Smith and initially spoke to the girl’s father.
 
It was him who introduced Moses to his daughter, having heard claims of “John” being beaten and abused by a foster father.
 
The correspondence continued for seven or eight months, in which time Moses was introduced online to some of the 13-year-old’s friends.
 
It was June 2005 when Moses travelled to Canada.
 
On arrival to Grand Forks, he telephoned the 13-year-old girl, but got no reply.
 
He then called her friend, whose parents questioned Moses and went to meet him, asking to see identification.
 
The prosecution said Moses claimed to have lost his ID, saying he was Brian Patterson and that John Smith was his foster son, and had been too ill to travel.
 
 
Full story at This is Hull & East Riding
 
We bring you to another EDL paedo:


Another English Defence League child sex offender has been revealed. John Snowy Shaw of the EDL's breakaway group the North West Infidels broke the news yesterday when Micheal Coates aka Mickey Blue eyes was revealed as a habitual child sex attacker using several false surnames in an effort to keep his identity concealed from his new partner.

On hearing Coates was in prison, Shaw made enquiries in order to offer support only to find out his true identity and issued the following statement.

Yesterday I discovered that Miki Blueeyes is currently in prison and due to the fact he was one of our friends I contacted people in order to get his details so we could write and visit him.

He’s currently in prison for smashing his neighbours car and setting fire to for reporting him for drugs, excessive drinking and loud music. Due to the fact he has access to his young daughter social services were brought in and they have inform her mother that he has 14 pervious charges for sexual offences and has been using 4 different surnames in order to keep this from coming out.

This is the reason he isn’t allow access to his other children and why social services have told his youngest daughters mother that they have to have no further contact with him. I suggest anyone one his friends list remove him immediately and have no further contact with this sick man.

I don’t care about the reputation of the NWI, my main concern is the children of people on his friends list and of his friends. It makes me sick to know I have had this man in my house near my young children and I’m just relieved that I never left them in his care. Myself and the NWI will have nothing more to do with this animal and I hope you all heed this warning and keep him out of your lives.

After making further enquires about Miki the fact he is a sex offender was confirmed from 2 other people that knew him (they were informed recently) and it was also discovered that he wasn't has he said a Beeston born and bred lad. I was then given the 4 surnames he has used one being his real one Michael Coates and after searching the net I found this link. http://www.chris-uk.org/michael-coates/11977. So there's no doubt about it so get this animal off your friends list and we have closed the NWI (Yorkshire) page down as he was associated with it.

Something else disgusted me yesterday was the fact that edl support group were more bothered about denying he was edl then warning people about this animal, the admin on that page should hang their heads in shame. He like the rest of us was edl first then NWI.

Coates has previously threatened to 'kidnap a paki' and douse him in petrol

This was not his first offence and this article was published on Children Have Rights website in  March 2002. Coates was jailed in 2003 for acts committed five years previous after he had persuaded his victim to drop charges.

Children Have Rights is a controversial 'vigilante name and shame' anti paedophile website set up by EDL member Chris Wittwer who has recently been released from a stretch in prison for football hooliganism.

‘My living hell’ by sex attack victim

A teenager today told how she suffered a ‘living hell’ at the hands of a serial sex abuser.

The 18-year-old victim, who cannot be identified, said she suffers nightmares about her ordeal.

A teenage sex-abuse victim endured years of “inner torture” after she was persuaded to drop her allegations against her attacker, a Court heard.

Self-confessed child molester Michael Coates got sympathy for himself by falsely claiming that he too had been a victim of sexual abuse and the girl was pressured into not proceeding with her allegations against him.

It was only three years later when Coates was finally charged with a series of sex offences, including two attempted rapes, that he admitted his own sex-abuse story was a pack of lies.

Today the 23-year-old Bradford man was beginning a six-year jail sentence for the repeated abuse which he accepted had developed from “experimenting” as a ten-year-old boy into a habit.

Coates, now of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to a total of eight charges of indecent assault and two of attempted rape in relation to the first girl and a further four offences of indecent assault in relation to a second.

During yesterday’s hearing at Bradford Crown Court Coates’ barrister Jonathan Rose handed Judge Roger Scott a copy of a suicide note his client had written.

In it he described himself as a child molester and offered his apologies to the two girls for what he had done.

Jailing Coates, Judge Scott told him that he regarded him as a danger to children and highlighted the fact he had told a series of dramatic lies for his own purposes.

“That poor girl must have had a very, very long period of inner torture…she attempted to kill herself as I understand it,” he said.

He said it was a further aggravating feature of the case that Coates had used bribery through sweets, money and cigarettes in exchange for sexual favours.

In addition to the jail sentence, Coates will also have to register with the police as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

Prosecutor John Hitchen told the court that the first girl had suffered flashbacks and nightmares after deciding to drop the proceedings in 1998, but she eventually challenged Coates about what he had done in the autumn of last year.

Coates was arrested in October and made admissions in relation to the allegations made by the two girls.

Mr Rose conceded that Coates’ offending had turned into a habit and he was unable to stop himself until he reached the age of 19 in 1997.

He pointed out that since then Coates had not committed any further offences of a sexual nature.

“This is a very young man about to start a sentence for offences against children and through the duration of that sentence he will have no one….it’s going to be a very lonely and a very difficult time,” said Mr Rose.

His teenage victim said: “He knew what he was doing was wrong when I was telling him to stop, now it is too late. I think they should throw away the key.”

The teenager said she was given strength and support from her partner and his family after she explained her background which gave her the courage to go to the police.

“It is something I had to do and I came out feeling a great relief that hopefully he would be put away,” she said.

“It is really good to know that there is someone out there that cares and loves you and I have never felt so loved in my life – they are one in a million.”

The girl, who left school with no GCSEs, has now found an office job and is studying NVQs to further her career in administration.

She says working also helps to keep her occupied so she is not haunted by memories of her past.

She said: “I would say to other people to speak out. It helps when you have got support behind you to go and tell someone.

“Even if you don’t go to the police, go to a counsellor and talk about it and they might be able to help.”

 

Typicaly, despite running demos against Muslim child sex abusers, the English Defence League have denied that Coates is part fo the EDL reminicent of last year's cover up of child sex abuser and founder Richartd Price who leadership described as a 'political prisoner' when he was jaled for indecent images of children and cocaine pocession.

 

Original article in the Brighton Argus

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-15 #1 Rich 2012-03-17 15:38
I have given my explanation several times now of how it was a simple mistake but strangely enough it seems to keep disappearing!!! There was an article in the press last week about a man who whilst trying to download music ended up with the same as I did he reported it to the police and they banned him from having access to his children where is the justice in that? Also comments left by the public to his story includes several people who have experienced similar situations themselves. File sharing networks are to blame and really should be banned.
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-11 #2 Rich 2012-03-17 15:41
And would you please stop contradicting yourselves, I was not jailed for it, it was not even news worthy until 15 months later when jailed for breach of the peace and released pending appeal!!
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+2 #3 Editor 2012-03-17 15:47
Many comments went astray when we upgraded the site. here is the post you made

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I would just like to put some facts across I was charged and pleaded guilty to downloading 4 level 1 images (lowest level and yes I agree nothing of this nature is acceptable) This came about whilst typing in the name of a song into the file sharing network 'Limewire' the search engine produces hits based on individual words in the title of what you are searching for,in this case the song title contained the word 'teenage',without paying too much attention and certainly not expecting what happened I highlighted the first approx eight hits (at one time) and hit download which took me 2 seconds if that upon realising what had happened once they had downloaded (appalled and disgusted as I was to say the least) I deleted the images and shut down the pc and went out.The following morning my house was raided on which was the morning of the Manchester demo for Facebook group A**** A**** W** T** F*** I* A**** (for which no charges were brought)However I was charged with the above said offence. In the prosecution files it is stated that the images were found in the recycle bin and they were on the desktop for no longer than 1 minute before being deleted I also quote from the prosecution file 'The file name is the actual name of the 'jpg'picture. A possible explanation of such a long and explicit filename is that torrent software will often search and return hits based on individual words within the filenam. A file with more individual terms will potentially feature on more results page' I.E If a song title with the words,child,tee nage,boy,girl,y oung,in it for example it would potentially return any files featuring these words I pleaded guilty in court as infant I was guilty all be it by error and the last thing in the world I wanted was to go to trial and there be a media circus surrounding the case which there would have been this way it could be kept quiet I was subsequently sentenced to 3 years community rehabilitation and 5 years on register which I believe a bit excessive but was not imprisoned for it as you state above it never hit the papers at the time simply because it was not news worthy it wasn't until I was jailed for so called EDL offences and seen as a political prisoner(of which I had no influence)that the authorities decided to publish an exaggerated version of the case.I was also banned from owning a computer for 12 months which is why I found it difficult to defend my name. I do not wish to be associated with the above named SCUM it was a stupid F****** ACCIDENT that has taken its toll on my life due to the media and their B******T.It is as simple as that no need for analysing cross examining ect plain and simple as I have said.(And I had cocaine not crack.)
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+9 #4 Stylo 2012-03-17 15:51
Even with that version of your story, you were still trying to download illegal music as file sharing in that manner is against the law. Either way, criminal.

Not that your story is believable anyway. If you'd downloaded them by accident, you would have deleted them before they finished downloading or immediately after.

People don't get ordered to sign the sex offender's register for such trivial matters.
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-5 #5 Rich 2012-03-17 15:56
Thank you

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4177142/Dads-kid-ban-after-porn-slip.html

http://blog.rock.inmusic.ca/2012/03/man-downloading-music-gets-child-porn-instead.html
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+4 #6 Editor 2012-03-17 15:59
I will correct the jail bit tomorrow Rich as we like to have our fact straight here.

Would it be fair to say that joining an organisation of far right extremists has fucked your life up somewhat?
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-5 #7 Rich 2012-03-17 16:10
That would be a fair comment, although I wouldn't necessarily have described it as 'far right extremists',alt hough it did ultimately attract some but I am not here to argue on how people determin that I just want to put my side across. Cheers.
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+4 #8 Editor 2012-03-17 16:15
We are more than happy to let you put your side across, it was just regrettable that the original comments from you got put on the wrong thread during the upgrade.

If you ever appeal and clear your name, we will be happy to remove the article altogether.
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-4 #9 Rich 2012-03-17 16:22
Fair comment although not knowing much about the appeal process but have been told you only have a certain amount of time to do so which has now passed but will certainly look into it in more detail, and reason for not doing it earlier before someone has a go at me for that is it wasn't published and made public for so long.
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-3 #10 Rich 2012-03-17 16:27
Quoting Stylo:
Even with that version of your story, you were still trying to download illegal music as file sharing in that manner is against the law. Either way, criminal.

Not that your story is believable anyway. If you'd downloaded them by accident, you would have deleted them before they finished downloading or immediately after.

People don't get ordered to sign the sex offender's register for such trivial matters.


I did delete them immediately!
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+7 #11 Duras 2012-03-17 16:29
Richard. Your bullshit story now contradicts your bullshit story from back when this story broke, which also contradicted the variety of different lies the EDL told to try and cover your paedophillic arse.

You sir, PLEAD GUILTY to downloading indecent images of childen thus you are a convicted paedophile and registered as such on the sex offenders register.

I don't believe the cunt who says he downloaded CP while trying to download music either . I have over 70gb of downloaded music on my Hard drive. I have NEVER downloaded a pornographic image while trying to download music.

Not once.
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+5 #12 Duras 2012-03-17 16:40
How does one appeal against something THEY PLED GUILTY TO?

Cut the shit Pricey.
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-6 #13 Rich 2012-03-17 16:45
Stylo if you read my comments properly you will see that I did delete them immediately after and the register has no scale of serious or trivial someone would be put on it for squeezing a women's bum in a nightclub for example. As I said I am not here to argue just to explain so that it.
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+5 #14 Pip 2012-03-17 17:55
So you accidentally downloaded pictures instead of songs? A likely story. Also, the fact still stands that you had cocaine in the same house as your daughter. It sounds like you love violence and drugs more than your own children, and political differences aside, that is despicable.
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-5 #15 Rich 2012-03-20 19:43
Firstly Duras basically your a prick, read what I WROTE simple as that,was any of your music off limewire or was it all legal and paid for? and Pip who ever said I had anyone living with me???
Really can't be bothered to come back and bicker any more,its quite pathetic!!! I have said what I wanted to say so suit yourselves,
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-4 #16 Rich 2012-04-07 13:45
Quoting Stylo:
Even with that version of your story, you were still trying to download illegal music as file sharing in that manner is against the law. Either way, criminal.

Not that your story is believable anyway. If you'd downloaded them by accident, you would have deleted them before they finished downloading or immediately after.

People don't get ordered to sign the sex offender's register for such trivial matters.


http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/04/05/naturists-claim-aston-villa-streaker-was-wrongly-charged-as-sex-offender-97319-30696393/
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+5 #17 former edl 2012-10-17 04:58
rich. i left the edl because of peadophiles like yourself. we at the edl accuse muslims of this stuff, when in actual fact if you do your research 67% of convicted sex offenders are white, so plz my so called white brother tell me who has the problem muslims or us. the media may highlight storys about muslim but inactual fact the percentages are lower hell of a lot lower then white peoples, so plz wake up do your research. i now have realised my mistakes and no longer associate with the luton divison and suprisingly ive taken time out and spoken to muslims and guess what they not all bad mate
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0 #18 lol 2013-03-19 02:00
mp3 or jpg its that simple everyone knows that mp3 is music jpg is photo so pedo do not lie
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